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Reinkarnation som en gris etc...

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Nedan en historia från en munk som under meditation kunde se sina tidigare liv. Lärdomen är att det är viktigt att vara snäll mot alla, inklusive djuren.

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http://www.pureinsight.org/node/4839



Documentation of Cause and Effect: Stop Killing and Do Good

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[PureInsight.org] Once there
was an old monk who walked by a slaughterhouse with tears streaming
down his face. People were astonished and asked him why he was so sad.



The old monk said, "It is a long story. I can recall my two
previous lifetimes. The first lifetime I was a human being and made my
living as a butcher. When I died at thirty-some years old, I was tied
up and escorted to the court of the nether world. I was to receive
karmic retribution and be reincarnated into a pig for killing too many
living beings. At that time, I only felt semiconscious, like in a
dream, and my head was unbearably hot. All a sudden, I felt nice and
cool and realized that I was born as a pig in a pig pen.



After weaning, I thought that the food was too filthy to eat. However,
I was too hungry to resist it any longer, so I ate it. Later, I became
proficient in pig language and chatted with other pigs. They too
could remember their previous lifetimes, except they had no way to tell
people. We all knew that we would be killed some day, so we
moaned and groaned. Because when we talked about the foreseeing sad
future, we also were very concerned. You see, that is why we had tears
filling the corners of our eyes or hanging on our eye lashes. Our tears
expressed our deep sorrow. We looked very bulky. In the summer
time, we rolled around in the mud to get some relief from the heat. We
had sparse hair and thick skin which did not protect us from the cold
well. When we grew big enough, we were slaughtered. The moment we
were caught for slaughtering, we all knew very well that we could not
avoid it but still tried our best to dodge. After we were caught, the
butchers tied up our four legs. The rope was so tight it almost cut
into our bones. The pain was excruciating! Then we were thrown into a
vehicle or a boat and piled up on each other. Sometimes our ribs were
about to break and our bellies were about to burst open. At times, we
were carried by people with a bamboo stick and we were hanging upside
down. That was the worst torture. When we arrived at the
slaughterhouse, the butcher threw us on the ground. Our internal organs
were about to shatter. Some of us were killed immediately, but
some had to wait for a few days. Psychologically, that suffering was
unbearable.



When my time came, the butcher touched me and I was so frightened that
my whole body turned weak and I closed my eyes and resigned myself. The
butcher cut my throat first and then shook me violently to get all the
blood into a container. The suffering at that moment was beyond
description. After all my blood was drained, the butcher stuck a knife
into my heart, I screamed uncontrollably. When I stopped screaming, my
soul broke away. After I woke up, I was born as a human being
again. I was told that I had done some good in a previous
lifetime, so I was given another opportunity to be a human being. That
is my life here today.



A little while ago, when I saw the suffering of the slaughtered pig, I
thought about the misery of my previous life. I know that the butcher
will experience the same misery as I did, so I cannot help but shed my
tears."



When the butcher heard the story, he immediately threw his knife to the
ground. Henceforth, he sold vegetables for a living instead.

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Om man inte tror på reinkarnation då? Behöver man inte vara snäll då?

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Du kanske skulle ta och prova lite fysiska övningar&meditation och läsa boken Zhuan Falun från Falun Dafa. Kanske du skulle se saker du inte sett tidigare och som du inte alls tror på nu. Det är upp till var och en att informera sig om sanningen.


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Vad som är sanning är ju i högsta grad subjektivt.

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Jo men alla kan se "sanningen om andra världars existens" på en extremt låg nivå, "sanningen" ändrar sig ju högre man kultiverar, och "sanningen" kommer närmare och närmare den absoluta sanningen. Alla kan fullända sig till sin maxnivå via mödosam kultivering.

En reinkarnation i 17:e nivåns helvete under 20 års tid(i den dimensionen, motsvarade 2 veckor här), följt av en lyckosam reinkarnation i en Dafa-familj:

http://www.pureinsight.org/node/6089

The Grief of the Phoenix Fa King


Author:
Qi Hang

[PureInsight.org] In the colossal firmament of the cosmos, there was a very beautiful heavenly paradise called “Rong Guang Paradise.” Gold and jade were everywhere in that paradise, resplendent and magnificent—the beauty was beyond the description of human words. There were countless sentient beings there, who were all different kinds of birds. Some birds looked like the ones in the human world, such as the song thrush, canary, and sparrow, but they were much more beautiful. Even the sparrows there had golden feathers. There were no crows, partridges, or sparrow hawks there. The red-crowned crane was not there either because they didn’t belonged to that system. A very noble and honorable phoenix ruled the paradise. She was the Fa King there. Her name was Phoenix Fa King. At the same level as Rong Huang paradise, there were other paradises where sentient beings looked like human beings.

After a long period of time, the Phoenix Fa King witnessed the degeneration of her world. The sentient beings’ selfish notions kept emerging. She looked hard for a resolution. Then the Lord of Buddhas was going to descend to the human world to teach the Fa, and many kings in different realms descended as well. The Phoenix Fa King put down the glory of being a god and joined them. When her sentient beings saw her off reluctantly, they promised to wait for her to come back. In the solemn and stirring descension, the Phoenix Fa King suffered all kinds of hardships. The Lord of Buddhas, the Phoenix Fa King, and other Kings performed a wonderful play in the Three Realms to lay the foundation for the culture of Dafa to spread in the future.

After billions of years’ waiting and thousands of reincarnations, the time of spreading Dafa finally arrived. The Phoenix Fa King was now the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) secretary in a factory. He became a member of the wicked CCP and enjoyed the benefits from it. Initially, he ignored the facts about his family members becoming healthy in both mind and body by practicing Falun Dafa. Then, in 2005 when he was seriously sick, he started to practice Falun Dafa with the persuasion of his family. But he still took medicine while practicing Dafa. He couldn’t let go of the illness. Whenever the symptom became severe, he went to the hospital. In the end he didn’t get well. Master gave him extra time, but he instead said he gave Dafa extra time, meaning that if his illness went away, that would prove Dafa works. He didn’t respect Master or Dafa and tried to negotiate with Master. He also didn’t understand why fellow practitioners saved sentient beings. He thought fellow practitioners rebelled against the CCP. He had quit the CCP but he still thought the CCP was good because it paid him a salary. On National Day, he watched the CCP ceremonies on TV. He felt proud of the CCP and thought that it was powerful. As such, he cultivated on and off all these years. He studied the Fa but didn’t obtain the Fa. In 2009, he passed away with regrets.

When he was seriously sick, I had sent righteous thoughts for him and saw his origin—the Phoenix Fa King.

On the day before he passed away, while I was sending righteous thoughts for him, I saw a phoenix. On her beautiful cloak there was a very thick layer of black material. The phoenix wanted to fly but fell to the ground. Four big magnificent white birds, who were the guardian gods of the Fa in Rong Guang Paradise, saw the scene and dived down to rescue their King without hesitation. They already knew that beings in the higher realms were forbidden to go down directly, because the law of the universe restricts everything. But it was their responsibility to rescue their King. Their only thought was: “Rescue the King.” Right at the moment they went down, they were disintegrated immediately. The sentient beings in Rong Guang Paradise were despaired and scared. Then I saw that practitioner came to me with a smile. Suddenly he vomited a long string of blood bubbles, and then a red evil dragon left his backbone. The reason why he thought the CCP was good was because he was constantly controlled by the red evil dragon.

On the day he passed away, I was still sending righteous thoughts for him. I saw that the phoenix lay on the ground with her feathers fallen off. She cried big tears. Then the gates of hell opened, one after another, until the 17th gate. I was frightened. Right at the moment that she fell down to hell, Rong Guang Paradise started to collapse. All the sentient beings fled in disorder but there was no place to hide. The most miserable scene in the universe was playing out in front of me. In the end, Rong Guang Paradise was completely destroyed except for a white case that was left in the boundless universe to recount its past glory.

While the practitioner was the Party secretary in the factory, he embezzled money and had affairs with women. He also killed beings. After he fell down to the 17th layer of hell, he was punished in over 20 ways, such as whipping, pulling out his tendon, etc. His teeth were all pulled out. Half a month later, he paid off all the karma and returned to the heavens, waiting for reincarnation. Although in the human world it was just half a month, it was 20 years in hell. He now looked like a kid and even made a funny face at me. A month and a half later, he was reincarnated in a fellow practitioner’s family and was a baby girl. Before he passed away, his wife, who was also a Dafa disciple, kept telling him to cultivate in his next life. He kept nodding. Perhaps that’s why he was reincarnated in a Dafa disciple’s family.

Originally, in order to save her sentient beings, the magnificent Phoenix Fa King put down the glory of being a god without hesitation. Now Rong Guang Paradise didn’t exist anymore. The sentient beings she made every effort to save were all destroyed. I hope she could obtain the Fa again and have a good future. But I guess she will never be able to remember her glorious past, otherwise, how could she live on?

I write this article to warn fellow practitioners that Dafa is compassionate but also serious. Cultivators must unconditionally assimilate to “Truthfulness, Compassion, Forbearance” in order to rectify themselves and return to their original homes.

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En modern reinkarnations-historia från England:

A British Boy Who Remembers His Previous Life



[PureInsight.org] Do people really have previous lives and future lives? The Sun,
a UK newspaper, reported a story of a boy who remembers his previous
lives. This six-year-old boy is called Cameron Macaulay. He is not much
different from other boys of his age. What differentiates him from
others is that he likes to talk about his "old mum", his former family
and a white house standing on the bay. But none of them is related to
his current life. The place he is talking about is a place where he had
never been in this life and is on the Isle of Barra, 160 miles away
from where he is living now. These things make Cameron's mother feel
worried.



Cameron's memory of his previous life

Cameron's mother Norma, 42, said that Cameron began to tell tales of his childhood on the Isle of Barra.



Cameron spoke about his former parents, how his dad died, and about his
brothers and sisters in the previous life. He also said that his "old
mum" was the one in his previous life. Cameron believes that he has a
previous life and he worries that the family in his previous life
misses him. His nursery school teacher told Norma all the things
Cameron was saying about the Isle of Barra and how he misses his mummy
and his brothers and sisters there.



Norma said, "He complained that in our house there was only one toilet,
whereas in Barra, they had three. He used to cry for his mummy. He said
she'd be missing him and he wanted to let his family in Barra know he
was all right. Cameron felt very sad. He wouldn't stop talking about
Barra, where they went, what they did and how he watched the planes
landing on the beach from his bedroom window. "



Cameron even said his dad was called Shane Robertson, who had died
because "he didn't look both ways." (It probably means that his father
was hit by a car.)



Norma mentioned that they had never been to the Isle of Barra. At the
beginning, they just regarded Cameron's story as something from his
vivid imagination. Cameron continued to feel sad for leaving the home
in his previous life on the Isle of Barra, and his feeling of distress
lasted for several years.



One day, Cameron's nursery teacher told Norma that a film company was
looking for people who believed they had previous lives. She suggested
Norma talk with them about Cameron. But Norma's family felt frightened
since many people didn't believe in reincarnation. Norma is a single
mother and has another son, Martin, who is one year older than Cameron
and also has been affected by this thing. Meanwhile, Cameron kept
begging her to take him to the Isle of Barra. Norma eventually
decided to take Cameron to Barra, to see what they could find.



Visit the Isle of Barra

Norma contacted the film company. They joined Cameron's trip to Barra.
Psychologist Dr. Jim Tucker from Virginia University in the U.S. also
went with them. Dr. Tucker specializes in reincarnation, especially in
children's cases. When Cameron was told about the trip to Barra, he was
very happy and jumped all over the place. They went to Barra in
February of 2005.



Norma said that Cameron asked her if his face was shiny because he was very happy.



When they arrived at Barra and the plane landed on the beach,
everything was just as Cameron had described. He turned to Martin and
Norma and said, "Now do you believe me?"



When Cameron got off the plane, he waved his arms and said loud "I am
back." He talked about his mother in his previous life who lived at
Barra and told Norma that his mother at Barra used to have long brown
hair down to her waist before she cut it off.



Cameron also said that Norma and his Barra mother would like each other and he was eager to have his two mothers meet.



He also talked about a big book which he read and God and Jesus. Norma
said that her family is not religious, but it seemed that Cameron's
Barra family in his previous life was.



In Barra, they lived in a hotel and began to search for clues related
to Cameron's previous life. They contacted the Heritage Centre and
asked if they knew a Robertson family living in a white house on the
bay. The Heritage Centre said no, which made Cameron feel very
disappointed. They then drove around on the island but they didn't find
the white house.



Later, they realized if he could see the place's land on the beach,
they must have driven the wrong way. Meanwhile they received a call
from the hotel with confirmed information that there was indeed a
Robertson family living in the white house on the bay.



Norma said that they didn't tell Cameron about it and drove to the
direction where they were told the white house was and to see what
would happen. When they got there, Cameron recognized the white house
immediately and he was extremely happy. When they walked to the door,
Cameron became very quiet. Norma guessed that he must think that his
Barra mother was waiting for him in the house as he remembered. But it
turned out that there was no one in the house, he looked sad. The
former owner of the house already died. The person who kept the key let
them in.



Cameron was familiar with the house and he knew every bit of the house.
As he said, there were three bathrooms and the sea could be seen from
his bedroom window.



After Returning Home

Researchers also wanted to track down one member of the Robertson
family who owned the house. Norma said that they visited this member at
Stirling. But they couldn't find any information about Shane Robertson.



Cameron was eager to see the photos of his previous life family,
thinking that probably he could find his father or himself. He always
talked about a big black car and a black and white dog. The car and the
dog were both in the pictures. Since they came back home in Glasgow,
Cameron became much quieter.



Norma said that it was the best thing to go to Barra. This trip made
Cameron much happier and he doesn't talk about going to Barra any
more. Cameron now knows that his mother and brother don't think
he is making up stories, instead, they found the answers that they were
looking for. Apparently, memories about previous life will fade away
gradually along with the growth of the person's age. Cameron never
talks about death with Norma. But he told his best friend not to worry
about death, because you will still come back.



When Norma asked Cameron how he came to stay with her, Cameron said
that he fell down and went into Norma's abdomen. When asking him
about his previous name, he said he was named Cameron in his previous
life as well.



Cameron's story has been filmed into a documentary by TV Channel Five in the U.K. called "The Boy Who Lived Before."



Epilogue

There are some stories about recalling one's previous life in Chinese
historical records. For example in the fourth biography of Jinshu
(Book of Jin Dynasty), it records that the well-known militarist and
writer, Yang Hu, had been the son of his neighbor Mr. Li in a previous
life.



There are some scholars who are studying reincarnation in children. Dr.
Jim Tucker mentioned earlier is one. There are other scholars like
Carol Bowman who wrote a book called Children's Past Lives: How Past Life Memories Affect Your Child and Ian Stevenson who is the author of the book Children Who Remember Previous Lives.



Many detailed cases they have collected all prove the existence of reincarnation.



Cameron's story also tells people that our lives are actually
continuous. Living and death are merely a form of existence. As Cameron
told his best friend, don't worry about the death because you will just
come back again.



Bad deeds committed by people will not vanish when evildoers die. People should remember this and never commit anything evil.


Reference:
"The Boy Who Lived Before"

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2001290023-2006410683,,00.html

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tvivlar att vi blir djur om vi blir återfödda för djuren måste ju vara trögare än oss?

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Svar till Gauss [Gå till post]:
Jag tror inte på reinkarnation så jag fortsätter vara taskig mot djur.

Eller?

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Svar till Viktorgl [Gå till post]:
Djuren ser vissa andra dimensioner via sin instinkt men hjärnan är låst rent IQ-mässigt eftersom djuren är till för att serva människorna. Det betyder inte att han är "dum", han är bara låst just i den livstiden och vill inget hellre än att bli människa igen. Endast människorna har rätt att kultivera upp till höga nivåer i himlen.

Endast mina personliga åsikter, ingen sanning erbjuds.

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Din mening är inte koherent. Den innehåller inte biceps.

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men om han är korkad så kan han nog inte veta att han har varit en människa så då är det bra om vi dödar dem så dem kan återfödas som människor?

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Det är ju ditt val, nu har du sett denna infon och om du vill fortsätta vara elak mot djur så kanske det räknas mer framöver?...

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Svar till Viktorgl [Gå till post]:
Jo men du avslutar hans planerade livsresa i förtid, alltså bör du straffas för det och då måste han vänta på sin "tur" i reinkarnationsprocessen, det anses extremt plågsamt och därför skickar han den karman till dig. Orsak-verkan, en universell lag. Mina två cent bara, ingen sanning här.

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Svar till Gauss [Gå till post]:
Jo men det är ju meningen att människan ska föda på kött hur kan vi då straffas för det?

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Svar till Gauss [Gå till post]:
Jag anser inte att detta är information, snarare fiktion.

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Svar till Viktorgl [Gå till post]:
Jo där har du en bra poäng, om man inte känner till principen här räknas det nog mindrei form av återgäldning(tror det är så i Buddhismen) men om man väljer att bli slaktare är det kanske ett kostsamt val oavsett.

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Suit yourself, vi skall alla snart få svaret. Då är det för sent att ångra sig.

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Svar till Gauss [Gå till post]:
Infon?

nej, du behöver nog lära dig om vad som är skillnad på en åsikt och information.

Du ser, med information så har man källor, vetenskaplig fakta i de flesta fallen, så att man kan logiskt förklara sig..

Vad du framfört, är din egen åsikt blandat med litteratur.

Om du läser Narnia, tror du att djur kan tala då? Eller tror du bara att andra är så naiva?..

Jack of All trades, master of none.

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Jojo, men då är det ju himlen eller helvetet som gäller, står ju i bibeln. Ungefär lika tillförlitlig källa som den boken.

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Du har kanske inte tänkt på att vetenskapen endast kan undersöka en enda dimension,dvs den vi kan se med våra två ögon? Vetenskapen har ingen sanning om universum, hjärnan etc. Vi kultiverare vidmakthåller att människan har potential att gå in i andra dimensioner och se högre sanningar.

Det är en åsikt och ingen sanning. Jag föreslår att du undersöker sanningen på egen hand istället för att hoppas på att vetenskapen ska göra jobbet åt dig.

Det har även bevisats att djuren pratar med varandra:

Birds communicate with their flockmates through song, calls, and body language. Studies have shown that the intricate territorial songs of some birds must be learned at an early age, and that the memory of the song will serve the bird for the rest of its life. Some bird species are able to communicate in a variety of dialects. For example, the New Zealand saddleback will learn the different song "dialects" of clans of its own species, much as human beings might learn diverse regional dialects. When a territory-owning male of the species dies, a young male will immediately take his place, singing to prospective mates in the dialect appropriate to the territory he is in.[citation needed]

Recent studies indicate that some birds may have an ability to understand grammatical structures.[22]



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Folk glömmer ofta att vetenskapen utvecklas hela tiden och dess ursprungliga förståelse kan vara helt fel. Alltså kommer vetenskapen om 100 år att vara totalt annorlunda än idag, framförallt kommer planen i andra rum-tider att undersökas tror jag.

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Nu hängde jag inte med, i Samsara kan du återfödas som en sten, växt, spöke eller djur etc. Finns alla varianter beroende på vilka handlingar man gjort under sin livstid.

Nej, inga religiösa skrifter är vetenskapligt belagda men som jag ser det är religiösa skrifter en högre flerdimensionell vetenskap, helt missförstådd(efter tusentals år av feltolkningar) av den stora massan som blint litar på vår etablerade vetenskap(som inte kan visa en enda dimension förutom den som vi lever i, dvs den är endimensionell).

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Karmalagen tar inte nån hänsyn till ifall du tror på den eller inte, det är en NATURLAG och påverkar alla!

Ungefär som om man skulle tro att gravitationen inte påverkar en, bara för att man inte tror på den... :-)


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Karma är tyvärr ingen naturlag, karma har inte påvisats stämma. :-)

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