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Detta är bevis på guds existens

Skapad av ciko, 2010-08-30 13:55 i Livsåskådningar

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Jag kan hålla med om en sak, universum existerar. Resten är antaganden. Vi kan inte veta att det finns nån orsak/skapare av universum, det är fullt möjligt att allt var en slump, även om jag inte tror det.
Att använda att Muhammed var den sista profeten är inget bra argument, för det bygger helt och hållet på din tro och har O % vetenskapligt belägg.

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Om Gud är skaparen av allt materiellt, vem är då skaparen av Gud själv? Precis som allt som existerar i universum så måste allt kunna skapas av något.

Jag är ateist ända tills någon religiös forskare osv, har kommit fram med konkreta bevis på att Gud faktiskt existerar.

Sen så kan vi ta en titt i Afrika. Är det vi själva som har skapat alla sjukdomar och all svält som pågår där?

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Så du håller inte med P1? varför? Lite mer utförligare måste du vara.

Att Mohammed är den sista profeten är ett bra argument eftersom du frågade om jag skulle tro dig om du påstod dig vara en profet, och jag svarade vad min tro säger. Om jag har belägg för min tro (islam) är en heelt annan fråga.
Jag har faktiskt belägg men sen vet inte jag vad du menar med vetenskapliga belägg... Några empiriska bevis har jag inte för det kräver att Gud är ett vetenskapligt väsen som följer fysikens lagar, och är materiellt, vilket inte är fallet. Däremot har jag rationella belägg, dvs jag använder mig av logik samt andra filosofiska verktyg för att avgöra om islam är den sanna religionen, och det var det jag gav dig tidigare, både när det gäller Guds existens och Koranens autenticitet. Du kan, som du har gjort, opponera dig mot detta men då krävs det mycket mer än: "jag tror inte det är så. Punkt." Det du måste göra nu är:
1 att bryta ner mitt argument bit för bit, och visa var den är ologisk
2 sedan bygga upp ett nytt argument som inte bryter mot logiska principer, samtidigt som det stödjer din världssyn.



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Mycket bra fråga. Om man tänker på det tillräckligt noga så kommer man fram till ett bra svar.
Om allt som existerar har en orsak, då måste ju även Gud ha en orsak.
Låt oss säga att Gud har en skapare, då måste även den skaparen ha en skapare, och skaparens skapare en skapare, och då måste skaparens skapare skapare skapare ha en skapare, osv osv. fortsätter detta i all oändlighet kommer inget framsteg nås.
Exempel: Jag ska skjuta Bosse, men innan jag gör det måste jag fråga min mamma, mamma måste fråga pappa, pappa måste fråga sin kompis, kompisen måste fråga sin mamma osv osv, pågår detta i oändlighet kommer jag ju aldrig skjuta Bosse. alltså, finns det oändligt med skapare då kan inget skapas.
Därför måste skaparen av allt vara evig. Gud måste vara evig, Han får inte ha en början eller ett slut för annars hamnar vi den här paradoxen. Att Gud är evig kan man också läsa i Koranen:

[112:3] Han har inte avlat och inte blivit avlad


Din andra fråga som gäller Theodicé (om Gud är god, varför finns det ondska?) Kan du läsa här:
http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/?page_id=83

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Jag tror du blandar ihop mig med Paradox, jag har bara sagt att det inte är ett argument baserat på fakta och alltså inte kan användas i en diskussion där man vill bevisa något. Att sedan påstå att du använder logik för att räkna ut att Koranen stämmer till punkt och pricka, det kan jag helt enkelt inte hålla med om. Du använder dig av lösryckta citat ur en 1400 år gammal skrift och tolkar det så det passar in på det du vill ha sagt för stunden. Sen blandar du in vetenskapliga uttryck och gåtor, som kanske ser bra ut men inte ger hela bilden.
Nu tänker jag avsluta min del av vår diskussion en gång för alla, för jag orkar helt enkelt inte upprepa samma sak om och om igen. Så för sista gången vilja bara påpeka: du kan jättegärna tro att Islam är den rätta tron, men oavsett hur många argument du kommer med så kan du inte bevisa det, för det finns jättebra argument för att andra religioner är den rätta, och även för att alla religioner har fel. Religion är TRO just för att man tror, inte för att man VET. Men det har jag sagt många gånger nu, så jag tänker inte upprepa det mer.

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ja... det tror jag med, förlåt!

Det är roligt hur du kritiserar mitt argument när du bara för någon dag sen inte kunde bryta ner det... Det jag gav dig kallas "eliminerings argument" dvs jag eliminerade alla möjliga författare till Koranen tills det bara stod en kvar, Gud. Sen att skriften är 1400 år gammal betyder inte att den är mindre sann...

"Sen blandar du in vetenskapliga uttryck och gåtor, som kanske ser bra ut men inte ger hela bilden."

Visa mig gärna var jag blandar in gåtor...? Och vilka av mina argument ger inte hela bilden så kan jag kanske förklara lite bättre.

Du säger mycket men du kommer inte med något konkret. Du säger "Det finns bra argument som rättfärdigar andra religioner" utan att visa argumenten. Du säger "Det finns bra argument som visar att alla religioner är falska" utan att visa. Du sa "Jag håller inte med P1" utan att förklara varför. Men det är egentligen inte så konstigt, eftersom det sådana argument som du säger existerar, existerar inte! Du säger att jag har dåliga argument, och att jag inte bevisar någonting, men du säger aldrig varför, och vad som är sant istället för mitt påstående.


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Jag sa aldrig "Jag håller inte med P1", men jag gav en motivering till min ståndpunkt, bara gå tillbaka och läs.
Du "eliminerade" alla möjliga författare till Koranen på ditt sätt, och jag bemötte dina argument med vettiga kommentarer och motargument som visade att din åsikt inte var vattentät. Bara läs.
Med "gåtor" syftar jag på din filosofiska fråga om ifall gravitationen existerar m.m. Helt ointressant i frågan även om det kan se bra ut i en diskussion.
Jag kommer inte förklara för dig vad jag tror på, för det är en komplex idé som egentligen inte spelar någon roll för någon annan än mig själv. För är det som jag tror så spelar det ingen roll vad man tror på.

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Att man avrättar tre små barn, är det bevis på Guds existens.

Har jag fel , kan väl inte vara så illa? ٩(-̮̮̃•̃)۶

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"Jag kan hålla med om en sak, universum existerar"

dvs du höll varken med slutsatsen eller P1...Och jag har gått tillbaka läst den ca 5 ggr, och ändå inte lyckat hitta en motivering till varför min logiska slutsats inte var logisk. Du sa att allt kunde vara en slump, även om jag inte berörde det ämnet. Det ända jag sa var att det finns en skapare/orsak. Inget annat. Sen när du väl håller med mig på den punkten kan vi gå vidare.

På mitt sätt? hur kan det gå till? Eliminerings argument kan bara utföras på ett sätt. Jag har visat att det är inte så troligt att någon annan än Gud skrev Koranen. Jag sa inte att det var så, det är något du har lagt till.
Om Mohammed skrev Koranen krävs det att
1. Han har världens bästa minne
2. Trots sin analfabet skrev han en så unik och perfekt bok, med sitt rika språk, poetiskt värde, och så vokabulärt och litterärt varierande. och den här unika stieln skulle han då ha hållt i 23 år
3. Han hade tillgång till fakta som ingen på planeten hade då, även om han aldrig gick i skolan


Om en arab skrev den krävs det att:
1. Araben kunde skriva, (väldigt få kunde det)
2. Araben kunde skriva på ett helt unikt sätt, och det gjorde han en gång och sedan försvann han helt från den stora arabiska litteratur scenen, utan att ta sina pengar och beröm
3. Araben hade tillgång till fakta som ingen hade då
4. Alla historiska källor som säger att verserna kom från Mohammed då och då, är falska.
5. Han har aldrig gjort anspråk på sitt verk, även om den blev även vid den tiden en av arabiens mest lästa verk.
6.

Som du säger så finns det en chans att det var en människa som skrev den, men och andra sidan finns det också en chans att en orange elefant flyger förbi mitt fönster just nu.

Koranen tar upp den absurda idéen att det var någon annan än gud som skrev koranen:

Och ändå säger de: (Muhammad) har författat den.’Koranen 10:38

’’Och de säger: (Muhammad) har författat (Koranen)!’’. Svara då: ’’Visa fram tio (av er) författade likvärdiga suror och kalla vem ni kan (till er hjälp) – utom Gud – om de ni säger är sant.’’ Koranen 11:13

’’Säg: ’’Om människor och osynliga väsen i samarbete försökte åstadkomma något som skulle kunna jämföras med denna Koran, skulle de misslyckas, även om de gav varandra all hjälp!’’. Koranen
17:88

angående "gåtan", så har jag tagit tillbaka det argumentet och ursäktar mig för den.

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Ursäkta?

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Inte ursäkta, bara svara, det är ju så nu gör.

Har jag fel , kan väl inte vara så illa? ٩(-̮̮̃•̃)۶

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Okej jag tänker svara även om jag känner att jag verkligen inte behöver det.

Svar: Nej.

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Varför godkänner ni dödande i Allas namn, av oskyldiga

Har jag fel , kan väl inte vara så illa? ٩(-̮̮̃•̃)۶

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Allah*
och nej, det gör vi inte heller.

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Svar till Emirbih [Gå till post]:
varför väljer ni ut vissa individer och avrättar?

Har jag fel , kan väl inte vara så illa? ٩(-̮̮̃•̃)۶

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Nope, det gör vi inte heller.

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Svar till Emirbih [Gå till post]:
Det visa utan tvivel på nyheterna att ni gör.

Har jag fel , kan väl inte vara så illa? ٩(-̮̮̃•̃)۶

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Svar till Huard [Gå till post]:
Min historiabok visar att Stalin var ateist - Alla ateister är massmördare

Nyheterna visade förra året Beriviks attentat - Alla kristna är terrorister

SD är med i riksdagen - Alla svenskar är rasister

Nyheterna visade en amerikans soldat dödade civila - Alla amerikaner är krigsförbrytare

Det är samma logik, jag tror att det är dags för dig att växa upp nu.



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Alltså enligt dig är Allah ateist.

Han står för det du skrev, döda tre oskyldiga barn.

Varför ska barn offras för hat mot USA?



Tillägg av Huard 2012-03-28 17:13

Kristenheten är massmördare genom att förse Allah med krigsfabriker och vapen.

Har jag fel , kan väl inte vara så illa? ٩(-̮̮̃•̃)۶

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Nu inser jag, efter alla våra diskussioner, att du är nog hamsterpajs största troll... detta är i samma nivå som han där hare-krishna killen.

Det går helt enkelt inte att bevisa för dig att Islam och kristendom och judendom har samma Gud. Det går inte att bevisa för dig att Islam är emot all form av terrorsim, och det går inte att bevisa för dig hur dumma slutsatser du drar, jag menar "Alltså enligt dig är Allah ateist."... Va?

Diskussionen slutar här.

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De gudarna har inget namn, bara Herren/Allah och det är titlar, inget namn, alltså namnlösa gudar och har samma fader :
Johannes 8:44
”Ni är från er fader Djävulen, och ni är villiga att göra de ting er fader har begär till. Denne var en människomördare då han började, och han stod inte fast i sanningen, därför att sanningen inte finns i honom. När han talar lögn, talar han enligt sitt eget sinnelag eftersom han är en lögnare och [lögnens] fader.”



Så erkänn att din namnlöse gud kräver dödade barn .....

Har jag fel , kan väl inte vara så illa? ٩(-̮̮̃•̃)۶

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Så erkänn att din namnlöse gud kräver dödade barn .....



den här namnlöse Guden säger i koranen indirekt att du är lögnare:

[5:32] ....om någon dödar en människa, som inte själv har dödat någon eller försökt störa ordningen på jorden och sprida sedefördärv, skall det anses som om han hade dödat hela människosläktet. Och om någon räddar ett människoliv, skall det anses som om han hade räddat hela människosläktet. Trots att Våra sändebud har kommit till dem med klara vittnesbörd, fortsätter många bland dem att begå ohämmat övervåld på jorden.

och inte bara det , han visar barmhärtighet mot döda barnen och deras föräldrar


Allah's mercy on dead children and their parents

58) Narrated some companions of the Prophet (pbuh) that they heard the Prophet (pbuh) saying: On the Day of Resurrection, it would be said to the children: Get into Paradise. The Prophet (pbuh) said: They will say: O Lord! (We shall not enter Paradise unless our fathers and mothers enter (with us). The Prophet (pbuh) added: They will be brought. Allah will say: What is the matter that they are reluctant to go to Paradise? The children will say: But what about our fathers and mothers! Allah will say: Enter Paradise you and your parents.


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Angel of death in islam

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God said in quran:

Say: "The Angel of Death, put in charge of you, will (duly) take your souls: then shall you be brought back to your Lord. (32:11)

If you could see, when the angels take the souls of the unbelievers (at death), how they smite their faces and their backs, saying: taste the penalty of the blazing fire. Because of the deeds which your own hands sent forth: For God is never unjust to his servants. (8:50-51)



The Hadith of the Prophet about extracting the soul from the flesh of bad people is summarized as follows: Al-Baraa'Ibn 'Azib narrated that the Prophet (pbuh) said:

If an unbelieving servant is more concerned with the worldly life than he is about the other life, tarfaced angels descend from the sky. These angels, who are carrying bad smelling fragrance, sit in near proximity tot he dying unbeliever. Then the Angel of Death descends and places himself near the head of the unbeliever. The Angel of Death says: 'O bad soul! Come out to Allah's curse and anger.' The Prophet (p) said: The soul disperses in the dying person's body. The Angel of Death grabs the soul like a sufud (a piece of metal stuck in wet wool). The Angel of Death takes the soul without letting it stay in his hand for even an instance. Then the angels put a rough garment that smells bad on the deceased's soul. The soul comes out having a very foul smell.

For those who are good, the Quran informs us that the extraction and pulling out the soul from flesh is very easy. The dying person will not feel the pain from the removal of the soul from his body. It will be as easy as pulling a strand of hair out of some dough. The Hadith of the Prophet (p) narrated by Al-Baraa'Ibn 'Azib states the following:

If the believing servant refrains from coverting material things in his temporal life and desires the hereafter, white-faced angels descend from the sky. Their faces shine as brightly as the sun. They carry with them funeral garb and hanut (fragrance) from Heavan. They sit in near proximity to the dying person. The Angel of Death (may Allah bless him) comes and sits near the dying person's head, saying: O good soul, come out to Allah's mercy and forgiveness.

The Prophet (p) said, The soul comes out like a drop of water being poured out. Then the Angel takes the soul, without letting it stand in his hand; releases it like a blink. The other angels take the soul and clothe it in funeral gard and hanut. From that soul comes the best smell, one resembling the best musk on earth.


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Day of Judgment

This life we live today is a very short life. The unbelievers on the Day of Judgment will think that the life they lived on earth was only a day or part of a day, as God has said:

He (God) will say, “How many years did you stay on the earth?” They will say: “We stayed a day or part of a day....” (Quran, 23:112-113)

And He has said:

Did you then think that We had created you in jest (without any purpose), and that you would not be returned to Us (in the Hereafter)? So, God is exalted, the True King. None has the right to be worshipped but Him... (Quran, 23:115-116)

The life in the Hereafter is a very real life. It is not only spiritual, but physical as well. We will live there with our souls and bodies.

In comparing this world with the Hereafter, the Prophet Muhammad said: {The value of this world compared to that of the Hereafter is like what your finger brings from the sea when you put it in and then take it out.}1 The meaning is that, the value of this world compared to that of the Hereafter is like a few drops of water compared to the sea.

What did Muhammed said that will happen to us on the Day of Judgment

Allah will confront His servant directly, without a mediator.

The messenger (S.A.W.) said: “ Allah will talk to everyone directly, without a translator. The person will look to his right, and will not see anything but his deeds. Then the person, will look in front of himself and will see nothing but the hellfire facing him. So protect yourself from Hellfire even by giving a charity of half a date.” {Reported by Imam Bukhari}

Prayer will be the first thing a person will be questioned about on the Day of Judgment.

The Messenger (S.A.W.) told us in an authentic hadith , “The first thing the people will be accountable for on the Day of Judgment is prayer, Allah will say to His angels (even though he already knows) : “Look at my servants prayers. Were they complete or not?” If they were complete It will be written as complete. If they were not fully complete Allah will say: “See if my servant has voluntary prayers, If he has them Allah will say: Complete his obligatory prayers shortage with his voluntary prayers.” Then the rest of his deeds will be dealt with in the same manner.” {Reported by Imams Ahmad, Abu Dawood, An-Nisa'i, and Al-Hakim}


We will be asked in the Day of Jajument about five things.

The prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) said: “The son of Adam will not pass away from Allah until he is asked about five things: how he lived his life, and how he utilized his youth, with what means did he earn his wealth, how did he spend his wealth, and what did he do with his knowledge.” {Good hadith reported by Imam At-Tirmithi}


The Messenger described the questioning in a speech reported by Imam Muslim that the prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) said: "Allah (S.W.T.) will meet a person and ask him: "O person, Wasn't I generous with you, and made you with a spouse, and made the horses and camels at your disposal? The servant will reply "yes"! Allah (S.W.T.) will then ask “Did you think that you will meet me?” He will reply: "No!" Allah (S.W.T.) will say: "I will forget you like you forgot me"! Then Allah (S.W.T.) will meet another person and his reply will be the same as the first person. Then Allah (S.W.T.) will meet a third person and will ask similar questions, and the person's reply will be: "O Lord I believed in you, in your books, and in your messengers. I prayed, I fasted, and I gave charity. And he will praise Allah as much as he can. Allah (S.W.T.) will say: "Hold on to your words, Now we will bring the witnesses. The person will ask himself “Who will testify against me?” Then that persons mouth will be sealed, and his thighs, flesh and bones will be asked to speak. They will speak about his bad deeds. He will know that he has no excuse. That is the hypocrite Allah (S.W.T.) will be furious with!”


No landmarks o­n earth for anyone

The Prophet (alayhee salatul wasalaam) said:

Mankind will be gathered o­n the Day of Judgment, upon a reddish white earth {that looks} like a pure loaf of bread. There will be no landmarks o­n it for anyone {to see or use}.

Saving believers and embarassment of unbelievers in front of mankind on Day of Judgment

The Muslims have unianimously agreed o­n affirming the Accounting o­n the Day of Judgement. The description of the Accounting for the believer is that:

[COLOR="Magenta"]Allah will confer privately with him and remind him of his sins, until he will realize that he is ruined. Then Allah will say to him: ‘I screened your sins in the world for you and today, I will forgive you for them.’ Then he will be given his book of good deeds. As for the disbelievers and the hypocrites, (their sins will be exposed publicly) and there will be a general announcement about them before all creatures: “These are the o­nes who lied upon their Lord. Verily, is not the curse of Allah upon the wrongdoers[/COLOR]!’"***

*** Saheeh Al-Bukharee: Book of Wrongdoings (No.#2441) and Saheeh Muslim: Book of Repentance (No.#2768)


Muslims shall be judged first on the day of Judgment

This ummah (of Muslims) will be the first in receiving the Accounting, due to the Prophet’s (alayhee salatul wasalaam) saying:

“We are the last (of nations), while being the first to be judged before (the rest of) the creatures.” {Agreed Upon}***

Horror of the Day of Judgment

Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith (Hadith 8.531)
The Prophet said, "You will meet Allah barefooted, naked, walking on feet, and uncircumcised."

Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith (Hadith 8.534)
[COLOR="Red"]Allah's Apostle said, "The people will be gathered barefooted, naked, and uncircumcised." I(Aisha) said, "O Allah's Apostle! Will the men and the women look at each other?" He said, "The situation (on The Day of Resurrection) will be too hard for them to pay attention to that."[/COLOR]

When asked by Hadrat Aisha (r.a.), the Messenger of Allah (saws) replied that the terror, state, and situation of that Tumultuous Day of Judgment will be such that one would not care about the state of another!

God says:

Those who have disbelieved and died in disbelief, the earth full of gold would not be accepted from any of them if it were offered as a ransom. They will have a painful punishment, and they will have no helpers. (Quran, 3:91)
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Last man to enter Paradise/Jannah:

Sahih al-Bukhari

Hadith is narrated by Abu Hurayra.

Abu Hurayra once said that people asked the (Muhammed)Messenger of God, “[COLOR="Blue"]Will we see our Lord on the Day of Judgment[/COLOR]?”
To which Prophet Muhammad replied, “Do you find any difficulty seeing a full-moon on a cloud-less night?”
They said, “[COLOR="blue"]No, Messenger of God[/COLOR]”.
He said, “How about the Sun, do you find any difficulty seeing it on a cloud-less day?”
They said, “[COLOR="blue"]No[/COLOR]”.
The Prophet said, “That’s how it will be. People will be resurrected on the day of Judgment and it will be said, ‘Follow whatever you used to worship!’ So some people will follow the Sun, and others will follow the moon, and others will follow Tyrants. However, this Ummah, along with its hypocrites, will stay put, and God will come and say ‘I am your Lord’. [Not having seen God before, and confused by the whole experience] They will say ‘We’re not going anywhere until our Lord comes, and when He comes, we will recognize Him’. Then God will come to them and say ‘I am your Lord’. Then they will [realize and] say ‘[Wow!!!] You are our Lord!’, and they will follow Him.
[The Messenger of God then continued] “Then the Sirat (Path) will be cast across Jahannam (Hell), and I and my Ummah will be the first to cross it. No one on that day will speak expect the Messengers [of God], and all what they will say on that day will be ‘Please God, get us out of this safely!’ (Allahumma Sallim Sallim). Jahannam will be full of hooks and thorns that snatch people, all according to their deeds. Some will fall in because of their deeds, and others will be cut and shredded until they cross to the other side. Then when God would want to have mercy over the people in the Fire, He will command the Angels to take out everyone who used to worship God, and they will do so. The Angels will recognize them by their prostration marks, as God has prohibited the Fire from burning them and the son of Adam will be consumed by the Fire except for his prostration marks. They will come out charred and the Water of Life will be poured on them after which they will rise again the way a seed germinates after rain.
[Continuing] “Then, after God judges between everyone, a man will remain between the Fire and Paradise*. He will be removed from the Fire but his face will be fixed towards it, so he will cry: ‘Please God, let me face elsewhere! Its heat has dried me and its wind has burnt me!’
God will say: ‘If you are granted this wish, will you ask for anything else?’
He will cry: ‘No!! I swear by your Greatness I will not!’
And he will continue to promise and pledge not to ask anything else, until his face will be directed away from the Fire and towards Paradise. He will see its beauty… but [remembering his promise] will remain silent. He will stay silent for a long, long, time, then eventually [unable to bear any longer] will cry: ‘Please Lord, please bring me forward… just to the Gate of Paradise!! …’
God will say: ‘Didn’t you promise that you wouldn’t ask for anything else?’
The man will cry: ‘But Lord, please don’t make me the most miserable of your creation!’
God will say: ‘If I grant you your wish then do not ask for anything else?!’
He will cry: ‘I won’t!!! I promise, I swear by you Greatness I will not!’
And he will continue to promise and pledge not to ask for anything else, until he is brought to the Gate of Paradise. When he reaches it, he will look inside and see its vigor, charm and pleasure… but [remembering his promise] will remain silent. He will stay silent for a long, long time, then eventually [unable to bear any longer] will cry: ‘O Lord… please… please let me enter Paradise!!’
God will say: ‘You’re unbelievable! How treacherous can you get Son of Adam?! Didn’t you make all those promises and pledges not to ask for anything else?’
But the man will cry: ‘But Lord, please don’t make me the most miserable of your creation!’
So God, the exalted, will Laugh, and allow the man to enter Paradise. Then God will tell him, ‘Make a wish!’
And the man will keep on wishing and wishing and asking for so many things until he can’t find anything else to ask for. Then God will help him out and remind him saying, ‘How about this… and how about that?’ And then, when the man is completely satisfied, God will say, ‘All your wishes will be granted… and doubled!’

When Abu Hurayra finished narrating this prophetic saying, Abu Saeed interjected:
“But Abu Hurayra! The Messenger of God said, ‘All your wishes will be granted… and multiplied by ten!’
Abu Hurayra: “I only remember that they will be doubled.”
Abu Saeed: “No, no… [trust me]… they will be multiplied by ten!”

Source: Al-Bukhari’s Book of Authentic Prophetic Sayings (Sahih al-Bukhari) #806 (or #770 depending on copy)
*”he is the last of the People of Fire to enter Paradise” (omitted above but restored here)

The last entrant to Paradise would

Narrated by Abdullah ibn Masud radi Allahu anhu, that the Messenger of Allah sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam said:

The last entrant to Paradise would be a man who walks and stumbles once and be burnt by the fire once. When he gets beyond it, he will turn to it and say: Blessed is He who saved me from you and has given me what He gave nobody in the earlier or later times. Then a tree will be raised up for him. So he will say: O my Lord! Bring me closer to this tree so that I may take shelter in its shade and drink from its water. Allah azza wa jal would say: O son of Adam! If I grant you this, you will demand Me something else. He will say: No, my Lord. He promised that he would ask for nothing else. His Lord would excuse him because he sees the man will not have patience over it. So he will make him near it. Then he will take shelter in its shade and drink its water. Afterwards, a tree more beautiful than the first will be raised up before him. So he will say: O my Lord! Bring me near this tree. So that I may drink its water and take shelter in its shade. I shall not ask you for anything other than that. Allah will say: O son of Adam! Did you not promise Me that you would not ask Me for anything else. He will reply: Probably I shall ask for nothing if you bring me near it. And he promised Him he will not ask him for anything else. His Lord would excuse him because He knows that he would not keep his word. He would bring him near to the tree. The man will take shelter in its shade and drink its water. Then a tree more beautiful than the first two will be raised up at the gate of Paradise. He will say: O Lord! Please make me near to this tree so that I may enjoy its shade and drink its water. I shall not ask you anything else. His Lord would excuse him as the temptation of which he could not resist. When He would bring him near it, he would hear the voices of the inhabitants of Paradise. He would say: O my Lord! Admit me to it. [COLOR="Magenta"]Allah would say: O son of Adam! What will bring an end to your demands to me? Will it please you if I give you the (whole) world and a similar one along with it? The man will say: Are you mocking at me, though you are the Lord of the Worlds[/COLOR]?

Narrating this Hadith ibn Mas'ood laughed and asked the hearers: Why don’t you ask me what I am laughing at. They said: Why do you laugh? He said: In the same way the Messenger sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam laughed (and when he said this Hadith, and the Companions asked: why do you laugh, O Messenger of Allah? He replied: [COLOR="magenta"]On account of the laughter of the Lord of the Worlds when the desirous of Paradise said: Are you mocking at me though you ar the Lord of the Worlds? At this, Allah will remark: I am not mocking at you, but I am All-Capable to do whatever I wish[/COLOR]
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[Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Hadith number 770]
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Allah discussing with Jesus on the Day of Judgment

Allah said in quran.

5.116 And when Allah will say, ‘O Jesus son of Mary! Was it you who said to the people, ‘‘Take me and my mother for gods besides Allah’’? he will say, ‘May You be exalted! I would never say what I had no right to say- if I had said such a thing You would have known it: You know all that is within me, though I do not know what is within You, You alone have full knowledge of things unseen

117 I told them only what You commanded me to: “Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.” I was a witness over them during my time among them. Ever since You took my soul, You alone have been the watcher over them: You are witness to all things

118 and if You punish them, they are Your servants; if You forgive them, You are the Almighty, the Wise.’




[SIZE="4"]Hadith about Intercession on the Day of Judgment[/SIZE]
Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 236

Narrated Abu Huraira:

[COLOR="SeaGreen"]Some (cooked) meat was brought to Allah Apostle and the meat of a forearm was presented to him as he used to like it. He ate a morsel of it and said, “I will be the chief of all the people on the Day of Resurrection. Do you know the reason for it? Allah will gather all the human being of early generations as well as late generation on one plain so that the announcer will be able to make them all-hear his voice and the watcher will be able to see all of them. The sun will come so close to the people that they will suffer such distress and trouble as they will not be able to bear or stand. Then the people will say, ‘Don’t you see to what state you have reached? Won’t you look for someone who can intercede for you with your Lord’ Some people will say to some others, ‘Go to Adam.’ So they will go to Adam and say to him. ‘You are the father of mankind; Allah created you with His Own Hand, and breathed into you of His Spirit (meaning the spirit which he created for you); and ordered the angels to prostrate before you; so (please) intercede for us with your Lord. Don’t you see in what state we are? Don’t you see what condition we have reached?’ Adam will say, ‘Today my Lord has become angry as He has never become before, nor will ever become thereafter. He forbade me (to eat of the fruit of) the tree, but I disobeyed Him . Myself! Myself! Myself! (has more need for intercession). Go to someone else; go to Noah.’ So they will go to Noah and say (to him), ‘O Noah! You are the first (of Allah’s Messengers) to the people of the earth, and Allah has named you a thankful slave; please intercede for us with your Lord. Don’t you see in what state we are?’ He will say.’ Today my Lord has become angry as He has never become nor will ever become thereafter. I had (in the world) the right to make one definitely accepted invocation, and I made it against my nation. Myself! Myself! Myself! Go to someone else; go to Abraham.’ They will go to Abraham and say, ‘O Abraham! You are Allah’s Apostle and His Khalil from among the people of the earth; so please intercede for us with your Lord. Don’t you see in what state we are?’ He will say to them, ‘My Lord has today become angry as He has never become before, nor will ever become thereafter. I had told three lies (Abu Haiyan (the sub-narrator) mentioned them in the Hadith) Myself! Myself! Myself! Go to someone else; go to Moses.’ The people will then go to Moses and say, ‘O Moses! You art Allah’s Apostle and Allah gave you superiority above the others with this message and with His direct Talk to you; (please) intercede for us with your Lord Don’t you see in what state we are?’ Moses will say, ‘My Lord has today become angry as He has never become before, nor will become thereafter, I killed a person whom I had not been ordered to kill. Myself! Myself! Myself! Go to someone else; go to Jesus.’ So they will go to Jesus and say, ‘O Jesus! You are Allah’s Apostle and His Word which He sent to Mary, and a superior soul created by Him, and you talked to the people while still young in the cradle. Please intercede for us with your Lord. Don’t you see in what state we are?’ Jesus will say. ‘My Lord has today become angry as He has never become before nor will ever become thereafter. Jesus will not mention any sin, but will say, ‘Myself! Myself! Myself! Go to someone else; go to Muhammad.’ So they will come to me and say, ‘O Muhammad ! You are Allah’s Apostle and the last of the prophets, and Allah forgave your early and late sins. (Please) intercede for us with your Lord. Don’t you see in what state we are?” The Prophet added, “Then I will go beneath Allah’s Throne and fall in prostration before my Lord. And then Allah will guide me to such praises and glorification to Him as He has never guided anybody else before me. Then it will be said, ‘O Muhammad Raise your head. Ask, and it will be granted. Intercede It (your intercession) will be accepted.’ So I will raise my head and Say, ‘My followers, O my Lord! My followers, O my Lord’. It will be said, ‘O Muhammad! Let those of your followers who have no accounts, enter through such a gate of the gates of Paradise as lies on the right; and they will share the other gates with the people.” The Prophet further said, “By Him in Whose Hand my soul is, the distance between every two gate-posts of Paradise is like the distance between Mecca and Busra (in Sham).”[/COLOR]
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Descriptions of Hell in Islam

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Abdullah bin Umar (radiAllahu anhu) narrated: “Allah Messenger (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said,
When someone dies, he is shown his destination morning and evening and if he belongs to the people of Paradise, (he will be shown his place) among the people of Paradise, and if he is from the people of Hell, (he will be shown his place) among the people of Hell.’”
[Sahih al-Bukhari]

Abu Hurairah (radiAllahu anhu) reported that Allah’s Messenger (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said:
There was a dispute between Hell and Paradise during which Hell said, ‘The haughty and the proud will find abode in me.’ And Paradise said, ‘The meek and the humble will find their abode in me.’ Thereupon, Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, (addressing Hell) said, ‘You are the means of My punishment by which I punish those of My servants whom I wish.’ (and addressing Paradise), He said, ‘You are My mercy by means of which I will show mercy to those whom I wish. And each one of you will be full.’”
[Muslim]



The Gates of Hell

The unbelievers will be led to Hell in crowds until, when they arrive there, its gates will be opened..” [az-Zumar, 39: 71]

And verily, Hell is the promised abode for them all. It has seven gates: to each of those gates is a specific class of sinners assigned.”
[al Hijr, 15: 43-44]

Levels of Hell

[COLOR="Red"]“To all are degrees or ranks according to their deeds.”
[an-An'am, 6: 132]

“Is the man who follows the good pleasure of Allah like the one who draws upon himself the wrath of Allah and whose abode is in Hell – an evil refuge? They are varying grades in the sight of Allah, and Allah sees well all that they do.”
[ali'-Imran, 3: 162-163]

“Indeed the hypocrites are in the lowest depths of the Fire; you will find no helper for them.”
[an Nisa, 4: 145] [/COLOR]


Capacity and Depth of Hell

[COLOR="SeaGreen"]On the Day of Judgment the inhabitants of Hell will see their destined abode face to face and will realize the error of their ways. But, of course, it will be too late. The Qur’an states: “No! When the earth is pounded to powder, and your Lord comes with His angels, rank upon rank, and Hell, that Day, is brought [face to face] – on that Day will man remember? But how will that remembrance profit him?”
[al Fajr, 89: 21-23]

“On the Day We will say to Hellfire, ‘have you been filled?’ it will say, ‘Are there some more?’”
[Qaf, 50: 30]

Abu Hurairah (radiAllahu anhu) reported: “While we were in the company of Allah’s Messenger (SAW), we heard a terrible sound. Thereupon, Allah’s Messenger (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said, ‘Do you know what that sound is?’ When we answered, ‘Allah and His Messenger know best.’ He said. “That is a stone which was thrown into Hell seventy years ago and has been constantly falling until now when it finally reached the bottom[/COLOR]
.’”
[Muslim]


[SIZE="4"]4,9 Billion Angels shall draw Hell on the day of Judgment[/SIZE]

Ibn Mas'ud (radiAllahu anhu) reported that the Messenger of Allah (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said:
[COLOR="Magenta"]Hell will be brought on that Day. IT will have seventy thousand reins with seventy thousand angels drawing it by each rein[/COLOR].”
[Muslim]

The Fuel of Hell-Fire

People:
Those who has disbelieved – their wealth and their children will never benefit them anything with Allah. And those are the ones who are the fuel of Hellfire.”
[ali'-Imran, 3: 10]


The Intensity of its Fire

Abu Hurairah (radiAllahu anhu) narrated: “When Allah’s Messenger (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said,
[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]Your ordinary fire is one of the 70 potions of the Hellfire,’ someone commented, ‘O Messenger of Allah, would it (ordinary fire) not be sufficient (to burn the wrongdoers)?’ At that, Allah’s Messenger (SAW) said, ‘The Hellfire has 69 more portions than ordinary (worldly) fire, and all of them are as hot as this (worldly fire).[/COLOR]’”
[Sahih al-Bukhari]


The Keepers of Hell

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]“Those in the Fire will say to the keepers of Hell, ‘Pray to your Lord to lighten for us the penalty for a day (at least).’ They will say, ‘Did there not come to you your messengers with clear signs?’ They will say, ‘Yes.’ They will reply, ‘Then pray as you like. But the prayer of those without faith is not but in error.’”
[Ghafir, 40: 49-50]

“O you who believe, save yourselves and your families from a fire whose fuel is men and stones, over which are (appointed) angels, stern and severe, and who do not disobey Allah in what He orders them and who do precisely what they are commanded.”[/COLOR]
[at-Tahreem, 66: 6]

[COLOR="darkorange"]“Over it are nineteen. And We have not made the guardians of the Fire except angels. And We have made their number only as a trial for the unbelievers – in order that the People of the Book may be certain and that the believers may increase in faith, and so that the People of the Book and the believers would not doubt, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the unbelievers would say, ‘What example does Allah intend by this?’ Thus does Allah leave to stray whom he pleases and guides whom He pleases. And none can know the soldiers of your Lord except He. And this is nothing other than a warning to mankind.”
[Muddaththir, 74: 30-31]

“They will cry out, ‘O Malik, let your Lord put an end to us.’ He will say, “Surely, you will stay (as you are).’”[/COLOR]
[adh-Dhukhrub, 43: 77]

The Food of Hell

[COLOR="blue"]"No food will there be for them except bitter dhari (a thorny plant), which will neither nourish nor satisfy hunger."
[Surah al-Ghashiyah, 88: 6-7]

“Verily, the tree of Zaqqum will be the food of the sinful. Like molten brass it will boil in their insides like the boiling of scalding water.”
[ad-Dukhan, 44: 43-46]

“Is that (Paradise) the better hospitality or the tree of Zaqqum? For We have truly made it as a torment for the wrongdoers. For it is a tree that springs out of the bottoms of Hellfire; the shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of devils. Truly they will eat from it and fill their bellies with it. Then on top of that they will be given a mixture of boiling water.”
[as-Saffat, 37: 62-67).

“Then will you truly –O you who have gone astray an denied – you will surely eat of the trees of Zaqqum. Then will you fill your stomachs with it and drink boiling water on top of it, and you will drink boiling water on top of it, and you will drink like diseased camels, raging with thirst. Such will be their hospitality on the Day of Requital.”
[al-Qaqi’ah, 56: 51-56]

“With Us are yokes (to bind them) and fire (to burn them) and food that chokes and a grievous punishment.”
[al-Muzzammil, 73: 12-13]

“So he has no friend here this Day, nor does he have any food except what comes from the washing of wounds, which none will eat except the sinners.”
[al Haqqah, 69: 35-37]

“Thus, All this. But indeed for the oppressors will be an evil place of final return. It is Hellfire – they will burn therein, and how evil is that bed, Thus, then will they taste it – a boiling fluid and a filthy fluid of pus and blood and other penalties of a similar kind to match them.”
[Sad, 38: 55-58]

Ibn Abbas (radiAllahu anhu) reported: “The Messenger of Allah (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) recited the following verse: ‘Fear Allah with the fear due to Him, and do not die except as Muslims.’ Then he said, ‘If a drop of Zaqqum would have fallen into a house in this world, it would have spoiled all the provisions of the people of this world. Then how will it be with one whose food it has become?’”
[at-Tirmidhi, Surah ali'-Imran, 3: 102] [/COLOR]



The Garments of Hell

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Garments from Fire:
“These two opponents dispute with each other about their Lord. But those who disbelieve will have garments of fire cut out for them. Over their heads will be poured boiling water.”
[al Hajj, 22: 19]

Garments from Black Pitch:
“And you will see the criminals that Day bound together in chains and yokes- their garments of liquid pitch and their faces covered with fire.”
[Ibrahim, 14: 49-50][/COLOR]


[SIZE="5"]The easiest punishment in Hell[/SIZE]

Nu’man bin Basheer (radiAllahu anhu) reported that the Messenger of Allah (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said:

“[COLOR="Magenta"]Verily, of the inmates of the Fire, the one with the easiest punishment will be one who will have a pair of sandals and s traps of fire. His brain will boil from them as a kettle boils. He does not see that anyone is suffering a punishment more severe than him, while he is the one with the easiest punishment[/COLOR].”[Sahih al-Bukhari and Muslim]
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Paradise in Islam

Trees in paradise

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Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:

[COLOR="SeaGreen"]In Paradise, there is a tree under the shadow of which a rider can travel for a hundred years[/COLOR].

{Book 040, Chapter 2, Number 6784: Sahih Muslim}

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Eating in Paradise

Jabir reported:

[COLOR="Magenta"]I heard Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying that the inmates of Paradise would eat and drink but would neither spit, nor pass water, nor void excrement, nor suffer catarrah. It was said: Then, what would happen with food? Thereupon he said: They would belch and sweat (and it would be over with their food), and their sweat would be that of musk and they would glorify and praise Allah as easily as you breathe[/COLOR].

{Book 040, Number 6798, Chapter 7: Sahih Muslim}

Greatness of Paradise

[COLOR="Red"]Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri narrated that the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu alayhe wasallam, said, "The people of Paradise will look at the dwellers of lofty mansions (i.e. a superior place in Paradise) in the same way as one looks at a brilliant star, far away in the East or in the West of the horizon. This is because of their superiority over one another (in reward)." One of the people asked, "O Allah's Messenger, are these lofty mansions for the Prophets which no one else can reach?" The Prophet, sallallahu alayhe wasallam, replied, "No! By Allah, in whose Hands is my life, these are for men who believe in Allah and also believe in the Messenger." [/COLOR](Bukhari and Muslim)

Market in paradise

Anas ibn Malik narrated that the Prophet, sallallahu alayhe wasallam, said, "[COLOR="Magenta"]Verily in Paradise there is a market in which (the inhabitants of Paradise) will come to every Friday. The North wind will blow and scatter fragrances on their faces and on their clothes. This will add to their beauty and their attractiveness. They will then go back to their families after having an added luster to their beauty and their attractiveness. Their families will say to them, 'By Allah you have been increased in beauty and loveliness after leaving us,' and they will say, 'By Allah you too have increased in beauty and attractiveness after us[/COLOR].'" (Muslim)

Golden palaces

Jabir ibn Abdullah narrated that the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu alayhe wasallam, said, "[COLOR="SeaGreen"]I entered Paradise, and behold, there was a palace built of gold. I asked, 'Whose is this palace?' They (the angels) replied, 'For a man from the Quraysh.' So I thought it might be I, so I asked, 'And who is he?' They said, 'Umar Ibnul Khattab.' Nothing stopped me form entering it except your Ghirah (sense of honor)." Umar said, "My Ghirah would never be offended by you, O Messenger of Allah[/COLOR]." (Bukhari and Muslim)

Rivers in paradise

Anas ibn Malik said that Allah's Apostle sallallahu alayhe wasallam, said, [COLOR="MediumTurquoise"]"I entered Paradise and found myself by a river, by its edges were tents of pearls. Then I tapped with my hands where the water was running, and there was then a beautiful smell of Musk. I asked, 'What is this O Gabriel?' He said, 'This is Kawthar (river in Paradise) which Allah has given to you[/COLOR].'" (Sahih al-Jami)

Never become old and sick in paradise

Narrated Abu Huraira:[COLOR="RoyalBlue"] The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said: “Whoever enters Paradise will enjoy bliss in which he will neither become destitute, nor will his clothes wear out, nor will his youth decline[/COLOR].”

[Sahih Muslim, Book 40, Number 6802]

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The description of Paradise and the remembrance of Allah by the inmates morning and evening.

Hammam b. Munabbih reported: These are some of the ahidith which Abu Huraira reported from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and one is this that he is reported to have said: [COLOR="Magenta"]The (members of the) first group that would be admitted to Paradise would have their faces as bright as full moon during the night. They would neither spit nor suffer catarrh, nor void excrement. They would have their utensils and their combs made of gold and silver and the fuel of their braziers would be aloes and their sweat would be musk and every one of them would have two spouses (so beautiful) that the marrow of their shanks would be visible through the flesh. There would be no dissension amongst them and no enmity in their hearts. Their hearts would be like one heart, glorifying Allah morning and evening[/COLOR].

[SIZE="5"]Sex in paradise[/SIZE]

It was narrated from Zayd ibn Arqam that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A[COLOR="Magenta"] man among the people of Paradise will be given the strength of a hundred men for eating, drinking, desire and sexual intercourse. A man among the Jews said, ‘The one who eats or drinks needs to excrete!’ The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to him: ‘The excretion of any one of them will be in the form of sweat which comes out through his skin, then his stomach will reduce in size again[/COLOR].’” (Narrated by Ahmad, no. 18509; al-Daarimi, no. 2704)
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jag är så sjukt jävla trött på dom som tror på gud och avfärdar vartenda bevis på att han inte finns.. så jävla arrogant kan man inte vara att man inte funderar en extra gång vad det än gäller... Det kvittar vad man säger till en extremt troende, gud är överallt för stackarn och det är otroligt enkelt att knäcka argument om det enda man i sin realitet har en gubbe som kan allt o gör allt som stålmannen..
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vi fortsätter med information om paradiset från proften Muhammed's uttalanden

Prophet Muhammed said about paradise:

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It is sparkling light, aromatic plants, a lofty palace, a flowing river, ripe fruit, a beautiful wife and abundant clothing, in an eternal abode of radiant joy, in beautiful soundly-constructed high houses”.
[Ibn Majah, as-Sunan, Kitab az-Zuhd, Bab Sifat al-Jannah, 2/1448, no. 4332. Ibn Hibban narrated it in his sahîh]

The Prophet said that the horses in Paradise will have wings.

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Abdur Rahman ibn Saidah narrates that he used to love horses, so he said
to Prophet Muhammed "O Allah's apostle, will there be horses in Paradise?
Allah's apostle answered, "O Abdur Rahman, if Allah enters you into Paradise, you will receive a horse made from a ruby which will have two wings. This horse will fly you wherever you desire
." (Hadith Tabarani)

if you wonder how can flying horse be in paradise, it is same like there is flying fish , even tough they live in water they have wings and fly in air

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Logic

If God created flying fish in this world why would it be unlogical to create flying horses in paradise?

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